Comments on: Where are the deaf militants/absolutionist?? http://deafphilosophy.wordpress.com/2007/01/27/where-are-the-deaf-militantsabsolutionist/ a blog about everything and nothing at the same time deafilosophy(AT)gmail.com Sat, 19 May 2007 21:33:36 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: deafphilosophy http://deafphilosophy.wordpress.com/2007/01/27/where-are-the-deaf-militantsabsolutionist/#comment-15 deafphilosophy Mon, 29 Jan 2007 00:28:14 +0000 http://deafphilosophy.wordpress.com/2007/01/27/where-are-the-deaf-militantsabsolutionist/#comment-15 RLM, Yes, I agree with you that the major players in the Unity for Gallaudet protests were not militants or absolutionists. I was puzzled by IKJ's article that targeted these so called absolutionists. If you could share your research or forward a link about "Deaf Militancy" I would love to read about it. I always thought Deaf Militancy was over-mythologized to the point that people still think there are deafs out there with such strong views but we never met anyone. I asked a few people if they knew anyone who fits this description, none of them could identify one person. They had strong ideas, but not 100% absolutionist or militancy whether it was in a positive or negative light. I still think IKJ and Jane was more focused on such a tiny minority, if any, instead of addressing the general population. We would be puzzled if President Bush chose to narrow all of his attention on the radical muslims in the USA, instead of addressing the general American population. There are many good muslims in america, so by focusing specifically on the extreme group, the rest of the Muslims will have to worry about the stereotypes perpetuated by the President. It doesn't require a lot of IQ points to figure out that anyone with extreme views in a high position is detrimental in an academic setting. IKJ was more worried about this small faction apparently. I still do not know who qualifies as an absolutionist and who is IKJ really after? Is he after the pride and culture that Deaf people have, or is he after the Deafs with extremist views? RLM,

Yes, I agree with you that the major players in the Unity for Gallaudet protests were not militants or absolutionists. I was puzzled by IKJ’s article that targeted these so called absolutionists.

If you could share your research or forward a link about “Deaf Militancy” I would love to read about it. I always thought Deaf Militancy was over-mythologized to the point that people still think there are deafs out there with such strong views but we never met anyone. I asked a few people if they knew anyone who fits this description, none of them could identify one person. They had strong ideas, but not 100% absolutionist or militancy whether it was in a positive or negative light.

I still think IKJ and Jane was more focused on such a tiny minority, if any, instead of addressing the general population. We would be puzzled if President Bush chose to narrow all of his attention on the radical muslims in the USA, instead of addressing the general American population. There are many good muslims in america, so by focusing specifically on the extreme group, the rest of the Muslims will have to worry about the stereotypes perpetuated by the President. It doesn’t require a lot of IQ points to figure out that anyone with extreme views in a high position is detrimental in an academic setting. IKJ was more worried about this small faction apparently. I still do not know who qualifies as an absolutionist and who is IKJ really after? Is he after the pride and culture that Deaf people have, or is he after the Deafs with extremist views?

]]> By: RLM http://deafphilosophy.wordpress.com/2007/01/27/where-are-the-deaf-militantsabsolutionist/#comment-11 RLM Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:59:23 +0000 http://deafphilosophy.wordpress.com/2007/01/27/where-are-the-deaf-militantsabsolutionist/#comment-11 FYI, the "Unfy For Gallaudet" protestors were NOT "deaf militants". I spent almost fifteen years documenting the 'Deaf Militancy". The UFG protestors were truly rational and logical individuals demanded for the pragmatic changes. "Militancy" term itself often have to be largely misunderstand. It could be meant "positive thing". Robert L. Mason (RLM) FYI, the “Unfy For Gallaudet” protestors were NOT “deaf militants”. I spent almost fifteen years documenting the ‘Deaf Militancy”. The UFG protestors were truly rational and logical individuals demanded for the pragmatic changes.

“Militancy” term itself often have to be largely misunderstand. It could be meant “positive thing”.

Robert L. Mason (RLM)

]]> By: deafphilosophy http://deafphilosophy.wordpress.com/2007/01/27/where-are-the-deaf-militantsabsolutionist/#comment-6 deafphilosophy Sun, 28 Jan 2007 03:54:00 +0000 http://deafphilosophy.wordpress.com/2007/01/27/where-are-the-deaf-militantsabsolutionist/#comment-6 Jean, Thank you for your comments. I may have used a more neutral word by using "misinforming.' There were questionable rumors planted along the way but what scares me is if Jane and IKJ believed that their comments were the truth, as opposed to intentionally falsifying things. I am actually more comfortable with people knowingly spreading falsehoods than spreading falsehoods thinking it was the actual truth to the point that it becomes a dogma. Jean,

Thank you for your comments. I may have used a more neutral word by using “misinforming.’ There were questionable rumors planted along the way but what scares me is if Jane and IKJ believed that their comments were the truth, as opposed to intentionally falsifying things. I am actually more comfortable with people knowingly spreading falsehoods than spreading falsehoods thinking it was the actual truth to the point that it becomes a dogma.

]]> By: Jean Boutcher http://deafphilosophy.wordpress.com/2007/01/27/where-are-the-deaf-militantsabsolutionist/#comment-4 Jean Boutcher Sun, 28 Jan 2007 02:01:51 +0000 http://deafphilosophy.wordpress.com/2007/01/27/where-are-the-deaf-militantsabsolutionist/#comment-4 Interesting discussion going on here. It is noted that you use a term, "misifnorming," in the seventh passage of your essay. Is it a categorical fact that Jane Kelleher Fernandes and I. King Jordan are misinforming? From what I have read between May and present and what I know for a fact is that they are not misinforming; rather, they are disinforming. I would respectfully stand corrected if any. Jean Boutcher Interesting discussion going on here. It is noted that you use a term, “misifnorming,” in the seventh passage of your essay. Is it a categorical fact that Jane Kelleher Fernandes and I. King Jordan are misinforming? From what I have read between May and present and what I know for a fact is that they are not misinforming; rather, they are disinforming. I would respectfully stand corrected if any.

Jean Boutcher

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