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		<title>By: Deaf Culture</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Markus&lt;/strong&gt;

It was quite useful reading, found some interesting details about this topic. Thanks.</description>
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<p>It was quite useful reading, found some interesting details about this topic. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: deafphilosophy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 04:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mariah, 

Another perspective is, babies are always communicating. They cry, which is a form of communication. They also toss and turn, and push things away, meaning they are telling you something (and you have to figure out what it is). It doesn&#039;t necessarily start with languages in the verbal sense. A baby merely laughing is communicating, so that&#039;s verbal as well as physical communication.

I believe there is a distinction to make, deaf or hearing baby probably have access to &quot;communication&quot; at the same time, and it may be that a baby has a slight advantage with sign language as opposed to making distinct verbal sounds such as milk, mom, dad. Maybe at the same time, a baby is trying to say words, but is unable to do so, and can make a sign which we interpret as milk. I don&#039;t know what linguistics define language as these days, does it still require the use of sounds as a criteria, or has it expanded to include sign language, body language without being restrictive in verbal use. I&#039;m probably better off just using the word &quot;communicate&quot; for the sake of clarity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mariah, </p>
<p>Another perspective is, babies are always communicating. They cry, which is a form of communication. They also toss and turn, and push things away, meaning they are telling you something (and you have to figure out what it is). It doesn&#8217;t necessarily start with languages in the verbal sense. A baby merely laughing is communicating, so that&#8217;s verbal as well as physical communication.</p>
<p>I believe there is a distinction to make, deaf or hearing baby probably have access to &#8220;communication&#8221; at the same time, and it may be that a baby has a slight advantage with sign language as opposed to making distinct verbal sounds such as milk, mom, dad. Maybe at the same time, a baby is trying to say words, but is unable to do so, and can make a sign which we interpret as milk. I don&#8217;t know what linguistics define language as these days, does it still require the use of sounds as a criteria, or has it expanded to include sign language, body language without being restrictive in verbal use. I&#8217;m probably better off just using the word &#8220;communicate&#8221; for the sake of clarity.</p>
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		<title>By: What matters deafness of the ears, when the mind hears? :: Values « Deaf and Philosophy :: January :: 2007</title>
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		<dc:creator>What matters deafness of the ears, when the mind hears? :: Values « Deaf and Philosophy :: January :: 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 02:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mariah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mariah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 05:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

Your message is an ongoing problem in this country. Most hearing people still thinks that Deaf people don&#039;t have language or communicate because of our method. One time, someone was telling a group of people about deaf kids don&#039;t learn language until after they get into school. I told them that it was not true, since I learned language when I was perhaps 8 months. My parents signed to me and I am communicating with them on what I need. Most hearing people are ignorant and doesn&#039;t realize that we have language, and it&#039;s just different from how hearing people is used to. They (hearing people) would think that if you don&#039;t hear anything, you can&#039;t &quot;function&quot; correctly. The best way to make this changes, is to educate them. I have had some people approaching me about &quot;baby signs&quot; and how wonderful it was. I would tell them that it proves that baby can communicate a lot earlier than those who don&#039;t use signs at that age (8 to 12 months). I did some research in the past and one researcher said that both hearing or deaf child learning sign language will pick up language 6 to 8 months earlier than those who don&#039;t. Thanks for sharing this with us and I look forward to more of your postings!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>Your message is an ongoing problem in this country. Most hearing people still thinks that Deaf people don&#8217;t have language or communicate because of our method. One time, someone was telling a group of people about deaf kids don&#8217;t learn language until after they get into school. I told them that it was not true, since I learned language when I was perhaps 8 months. My parents signed to me and I am communicating with them on what I need. Most hearing people are ignorant and doesn&#8217;t realize that we have language, and it&#8217;s just different from how hearing people is used to. They (hearing people) would think that if you don&#8217;t hear anything, you can&#8217;t &#8220;function&#8221; correctly. The best way to make this changes, is to educate them. I have had some people approaching me about &#8220;baby signs&#8221; and how wonderful it was. I would tell them that it proves that baby can communicate a lot earlier than those who don&#8217;t use signs at that age (8 to 12 months). I did some research in the past and one researcher said that both hearing or deaf child learning sign language will pick up language 6 to 8 months earlier than those who don&#8217;t. Thanks for sharing this with us and I look forward to more of your postings!</p>
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